I have been reading Tycoon Talk for a while, but I forgot there was a success 
story section. I wrote my success story for 2 other sites and it has been 
getting a nice response so I decided to share it here. I hope this can be 
inspirational and helpful.
The Foundation: 
My first job
When I turned 16, I 
got a job at a ski shop after school and on weekends. I started out doing a lot 
of garbage work, but eventually I was allowed to do some sales. I was a shy kid 
so I had trouble speaking to customers and answering phones. When I was 16, I 
looked 12, so that did not help. By the end of the first season, I was getting 
very comfortable with sales and I was producing the most sales for the time I 
was putting in.
After a couple years, I 
learned how the business was run and I took a larger role in the shop. Even 
though I was never put in a management role due to looking very young, I was 
basically doing everything a manager was doing.
Quitting my first job...
I was getting very frustrated that I was taking on a lot of 
responsibility, but never given a management role. At the time, I don't think I 
understood why. I came to the realization that I did not want to be stuck in a 
job like this anyway. I wanted something bigger. I was always hungry for money 
and always dreamed of doing some sort of big business that allowed me to be 
independent. This job would never lead to that.
I am a person who succeeds when put under pressure. Even in 
school, I waited until the last minute to do my homework or a major project. 
Now, I stay up late at night to do my work because I race to get work done 
before I go to bed. I have produced my best work and ideas late at night.
At the time, I knew this is the type of 
person I was and if I would succeed, it would not be from building a business on 
the side while I was working at the ski shop. I needed more pressure. The only 
way to do that is quit.
This simple job 
at the ski shop gave me the basics of sales and business management at a young 
age, but it was time to move on.
Dropping Out Of 
School:
I went from a public 
school to a private school then back to a public school for high school. The 
difference between the private school I attended and the public school was huge. 
I felt no pressure in the public school. I slept through my sophomore and junior 
year. I never did homework or took a book home. I still managed to pass with B's 
and C's. It was pathetic. Teachers barely new me, they would give slackers way 
to get bonus points, there was no trust, etc. The education was a joke. It was 
like a review of what I already did in the private school. I was never taught 
how to think for my self or how to figure things out on my own. They only taught 
trivial things. I was being prepped to be a good little employee and do 
everything by the book.
Half way 
through my junior year, I realized this was a waste of time. I wanted to quit 
and work full time at the ski shop to get more real world experience and see 
what happens from there. I just knew high school was not helping me grow as a 
person or intellectually.
I met with 
the guidance counselor and principal. Neither had any idea who I was. They said, 
"We don't even know you. You have never been in trouble before. We don't 
understand why you are dropping out." I just laughed. That was one of the exact 
reasons I wanted out. I was just another one of the herd. You have to be in 
trouble or an all-star to be noticed. I was neither because I had no motivation 
to be an all star and no reason to cause trouble.
I loved the close family atmosphere of a private school. 
Everyone knows everyone and the teachers are really involved in more than your 
education. They knew me as a person. I didn't need to be a trouble maker or an 
all star to be noticed.
Stupid Ideas: 
My First Try At Business
It is 
usually not the idea that is stupid, it is the plan. Most people are so blinded 
by the thought of how much money they can make, they don't think of all of the 
ways they CAN'T make money with their idea. I found this to be the most 
important thing when planning a new business.
"Stupid ideas" are needed if you want to succeed at business. 
Hopefully some of those stupid ideas don't cost you much money. Stupid ideas are 
a learning experience. You learn what doesn't work.
If you have a successful business that you started on your own, 
then I am sure you hear people coming to you with ideas all of the time. They 
are so excited and motivated as they tell you their idea to make millions. Then 
they ask you, "so what do you think?" It is so hard to tell them all of the 
things wrong with the idea and ruin their dream, but they are blind to all of 
those pit falls. They have never tried to build a business to know how many 
things are wrong with it.
When I start 
a new business, I spend a ton of time running numbers on different scenarios. 
The scenarios don't just assume x number of customers spending y. You must be 
your businesses worst critic and find all of the holes before you fall in 
them.
My stupid ideas...
After quitting my job at the ski shop, I 
knew I wanted to work on my own. It was the late 90's the internet was all the 
hype and everyone was talking about the money to be made there. This was my 
opportunity to get in the ground floor. My first idea was to see what other 
successful people were doing. I saw one of the late night infomercials and 
wanted to give it a try. Yeah, it was him...Don Lapre and his famous"tiny 
classified ads"! Hey, I was young, hungry and gullible. He had a "new system" 
that would work online and I thought it was worth a try since I had no idea how 
to make any money online. Obviously this did not go anywhere.
I jumped from one idea to another. I 
searched for ways to make money online and that lead me to one Multi-Level 
Marketing program after another.
It 
always seemed like the only way to independent wealth was MLM. Every successful 
person on the TV was saying this. It was all over the internet. It had to be the 
way. It just made sense. You just build a "downline" who make money for you. It 
seemed so easy.
I just felt like I had 
to get in the right MLM program. I taught myself how to build sites and do some 
basic marketing. I would build sites and try to join marketing networks where i 
could trade some clicks. I had no money for advertising, so i was trying very 
pathetic marketing tactics. So many sites offered "the best way to get traffic 
to your site for free" and I fell for them all.
Nothing was really working. I managed to get some sales here 
and there, but i was not making money. I was getting better at building and 
marketing sites. Eventually i built up downlines of hundreds of people. Still no 
money.
I realized that MLM are horrible 
businesses. Actually they are not real businesses at all. The argument they 
always made was, "all businesses are multi-level". They would give examples of 
McDonalds or manufacturing as being multi-level. It is true those businesses, 
like most, have levels. There is the manufacturer or supplier, usually a 
distributer and then the end retailer/sales person.
They made it sound like the levels in MLM are just like any 
business. The reality is the "levels" in MLM are ALL in the bottom level of 
normal business levels. I was just a salesman like any other salesman except my 
income is commissioned based. I either made a commission on a product sold or 
products sold by people in my downline.
The natural problem with MLM is everyone is attracted to it 
because it is sold as a way to make money while others work for you. Basically, 
it attracts lazy people. This is why i had hundreds and sometimes thousands in 
my downlines, but not making money. No one in my downline wanted to work.
Better Idea: Just Basic Business
Instead of looking for the perfect 
business, I realized I should just be doing something basic. I was learning how 
to market websites online. I was getting thousands of people to join MLM 
programs, so I obviously was learning how to get visitors and get them to join a 
program. I was just marketing the wrong thing. I needed to market normal things 
so I can get paid a commission right away instead of waiting for someone else to 
perform.
Affiliate marketing seemed to 
be the way to make great money online with no expense. I basically needed to 
build sites and promote some offers and the cash should roll in.
I found several products that were in the 
"make money" market which was similar to the MLM market. I felt like this was an 
easy market to capitalize on. I eventually taught myself how to get my sites to 
rank in the top search engines such as Alta Vista, Lycos and Excite. I built 
small sites that showed people html tricks, marketing strategies, which 
affiliate programs were good and how to market them. I received commissions when 
someone would signup for software that I recommended for marketing online, when 
someone signed up for an advanced marketing guide, etc.
It was all starting to add up. I also built sites for something 
called "paid to surf". These were becoming very popular back then and there was 
some big commissions to be made. I was one of the top ranking sites for many of 
the keywords back then and generated around $10,000 in profit each month from 
these programs... that is until they all stopped paying and went bankrupt in the 
dot com crash.
Ok, it was time to make 
sure the companies I choose to promote can actually pay me what they say after 
all of the work I do.
Secrecy: 
Growing Quietly To Avoid Being Eaten!
Despite taking a hit with the "paid to surf" companies, I was 
still generating good revenue and I wanted to expand. I knew how to rank at the 
top of the search engines. (It was easy pickin' back then!) I just needed to 
scale up. I built many more sites for different products and different niches to 
get them ranked in the top of the search engines. I was going for a large 
quantity of small sites to generate more and more revenue.
After a few years, I saw a problem. 
Affiliate marketing is EXTREMELY competitive and had a very small cost to entry. 
This means once you start making money and people know it, they copy exactly 
what you are doing. It is cheap, it is easy, it works and it is a pain in the 
*** to battle. I went silent for 8 years. Everything I did was a big secret and 
this was the case with all of the successful affiliate marketers. Even the 
affiliate marketers who sold "how to make money online" programs kept quiet 
about their actual money making sites. No one wanted their strategies, site 
layouts, traffic sources or anything else getting leaked to other affiliate 
marketers.
One of the important rules 
was never to talk about your success in affiliate marketing and show one of your 
sites. Some people did this and I stepped in and took a big share of what they 
had.
I built hundreds of sites in many 
different markets. I was sometimes building a site a day. Each site had to sell 
a product in order for me to make a commission. I needed more than just traffic 
from search engines, I needed to convert that traffic into a sale. After 
building hundreds of sites and trying countless strategies, I discovered ways to 
increase conversions to maximize my revenue from each site.
Some of the sites I built were not small. 
I put a lot more attention and money into some of them.
Fundamental Problem: I had to get out
By 2006 I had an empire of sites 
generating over $2 million a year. I felt on top of the world. I was making so 
much money and could afford anything I wanted, but I felt like I had to make 
more. I felt something was wrong. Making that kind of money should of made me 
feel very comfortable. Something was off.
I felt maybe it was not a good thing my business was built off 
of a ton of small sites. My most successful sites made millions by themselves, 
but I always felt like they could die at any time.
In 2007 I finally realized why my model was so fragile. Despite 
expanding, my income did not grow. I did a lot of digging and found the 
problem.
Like I mentioned before, 
affiliate marketing is very competitive. Any other marketer could copy what you 
are doing and hurt revenue. I was always a step ahead of them and very 
secretive. There was a bigger enemy. The actual companies I was promoting.
In the first 10 years of online affiliate 
marketing, companies relied on affiliates to drive a massive amount of business. 
Good online marketers would never work for one company at a regular salary. If 
you knew how to market anything online, then there was too much money to be made 
by sending traffic to an affiliate program for a commission. As colleges began 
to teach basic internet marketing, more and more kids would come out of college 
eager for a low salary job. Colleges never sell the dream of becoming a 
millionaire. They pound it in your head to graduate with good grades and start 
at a low salary in a good company where you can grow.
These kids out of college now had enough basic knowledge needed 
to copy what I was doing and dumb enough to do it at a low salary. The companies 
I promoted hired them and told them to copy what their top affiliates were 
doing. I was usually one of them.
The 
companies I promoted had all of the data from my sites. They tracked how I sent 
them traffic. They simply had their new employees make sites like mine (which 
converted traffic like crazy) and then they would market their sites like I 
marketed mine. I worked so hard keeping everything I do secret so other 
affiliates could not see everything I do, but I could not prevent the companies 
I promoted from seeing everything.
The 
entire affiliate industry was falling apart. Now, it is just a small fraction of 
what it was.
Selling: I finally get out
In 2008 I started shopping my business to 
all of my competitors who I knew were larger than I was. The only offers I would 
get is 1 or 2 months of revenue. I kept working on one potential buyer. He said 
"no" to me a dozen times. I would keep pressing to show him how he could profit 
from the buy. The recession hit and it was a hard sell, but I managed to get him 
to see the upside. I managed to unload everything for a pathetic price of 
$700,000.
I was certain I wanted to sell 
despite getting what I could make in 6 months. First, I did not feel comfortable 
in the ability to make long term money with the business and I wanted to be able 
to focus 100% on something else. Second, I was bored of what I was doing. 
Finally, the biggest thing that pushed me was the recession. When the market 
collapsed, I knew it was a huge opportunity to make a massive ROI in stocks.
I felt releived when it was sold and excited 
to get all my cash into the stock market.
If I had to do it all over again, I would have focused on a few 
sites and made them huge.
Doubling Down: 
Making money from a stock market collapse
I could have sold my business 8 months earlier if I really 
wanted to and I would have received twice the money. If I did, I would have 
surely invested everything in the stock market. Investing in the middle of 2008 
would have surely bankrupted me.
Selling 
my business in November 2008 for a pathetic amount of $700,000 and getting the 
cash when the S&P was around 700 points turned out to be perfect. I was 
actually lucky to sell it for a fraction of what it was worth when I did.
I have always had a fascination with 
investing and read dozens of books on the subject. I was heavily researching 
stocks for several month in anticipation of selling my business. I wanted to 
invest in companies that were very solid and had the cash or assets to handle 
the credit lockup. I wanted very strong fundamentials. Companies that increased 
their revenue, profits and market cap ever year for 5 to 10 years, not just a 
few years. Any company can ride a hot market or a bubble. I wanted companies 
that could grow in a recession.
I read 
annual reports on many companies and dug for any information I could find. I 
settled on around 10 stocks and began investing. By the end of 2008 I doubled my 
net worth.
The first 3 months of 2009, 
stocks had one of the biggest declines ever. I managed to ride out the storm. By 
the end of the year I still made 6 figures from the investments despite ignoring 
the market for most of the year. I could have taken advantages of the wild 
swings, but it was too stressful. One day everyone was saying we would all be 
broke as the market would go down a couple percent. The next day, all of the 
same people would scream about all of the money that can be made in this market. 
I did not want to hear that stuff and took the rest of the year off.
Current Day: Leveraging what I know and 
swallowing my pride.
My 
entrepreneurial itch was really getting to me. I love investing, but I wanted to 
start another company. For years I always had the idea of becoming a consultant, 
but I had such a bad view of them. I thought if they could really do what they 
say, they would do it instead of talk about it and experiment with the budget of 
clients. The fact is, most consultants are idiots who really don't know what 
they are doing and just talk a good game. That does not take away from the other 
fact that there is HUGE money in consulting and those who really know what they 
are doing can make big money. I swallowed my pride and decided to become a 
consultant.
I started a firm, Prodigal 
Solutions, that focuses on SEO and Conversion Optimization. These were the 2 
areas I had a ton of experience and I knew I could leverage this experience to 
build a new company for myself and help other companies expand. Despite my 
experience, I found that it is a hard sell. Major companies want to see case 
studies and testimonials. How do I get these without clients? I had to start 
with many smaller companies to build up some case studies. Although, larger 
companies want to see case studies from larger companies. Getting this firm up 
to the size I want is taking much longer than I thought. SEO is not something 
that happens overnight. It takes time to build up solid case studies for 
that.
Conversion rate optimization is 
where the real money is for companies. Optimizing a site to convert as many 
visitors into customers creates huge return and makes everything much more 
profitable. It just opens up so many doors when a company has great conversions. 
This is how my business was so successful. My sites converted visitors at 
amazing rates and that allowed me to spend more money per site for marketing.
The unfortunate thing is many companies feel 
that their current website designers or developers can do some basic work to 
increase conversions. Every SEO, design, and consulting company is offering 
conversion optimization now which is kind of funny. Oh well, more business for 
me down the line when those companies fail to help their clients and those 
clients realize how important conversions are. I will be there to help them.
So, there have been challenges in my new 
business that took time to overcome. After the first year, Prodigal Solutions 
has hit 6 figures in revenue. Definitely not the income I had before, but it 
should be profiting in the 7 figures within 2 years.
I love business and I love helping other companies work on their 
overall business plans, optimize their site and help with marketing. I am doing 
what I love again.
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